Re: [Roll] New proposed charter

Randy Turner <rturner@amalfisystems.com> Mon, 14 December 2015 04:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Roll] New proposed charter
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I think there are other ROLL drafts to be discussed on the document tracker - one is using DIOs to distribute compression context, and the larger discussion about usage of DIOs to obviate the need for RFC 6775 or other ND traffic.   Would this be picked up in the new charter ?  If not, what would be the disposition of these discussions ?

Randy


> On Dec 13, 2015, at 10:35 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Randy Turner <rturner@amalfisystems.com> wrote:
>> I thought the discussion was around developing a new charter. If that's
>> the case then nothing is "in scope" yet. If we're not discussing
>> potential work items for a new charter then what is this thread about
>> again?  I would be happy to work up a draft if that's what is required
>> to get things "in scope"
> 
> Step 1a) adjust charter.  The PROPOSED charter text ALREADY says:
> 
>    ***the standardization of a mixed storing/non-storing mechanism***
> 
> so anything that you want to write about a "non-storing with multicast-storing"
> would fit into that wording.
> 
> 1b) the text also says, "look at enhancements and maintenance to the RPL
>   protocol"
> 
> So, anything which ads to RPL is in scope.
> 
> 2) Step 2, when the new charter is in place, PLEASE:
>   "Write an ID, slides, etc.."
> 
> about "non-storing with multicast-storing", and see if there is a reason/support for
> the IETF to standardize it.  It could be that only you care, in which case
> you can write it up as a non-WG submission, not subject to standardization.
> Or it could be that it's the coolest thing since HTTP, and everyone wants to
> run it...
> 
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
> IETF ROLL WG co-chair.    http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/roll/charter/
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