Re: [rrg] RRG to hibernation

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Sun, 11 November 2012 10:22 UTC

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Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:22:17 +0100
From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [rrg] RRG to hibernation
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Tony,

First, thanks for taking on and navigating work within the RRG for as
long as you have done.  I think people forget that this group has
induced a tremendous amount of stress and turbulence over time, and that
you were often the target of that stress.

This having been said, I think this group like any other group – based
on contributions and participation.  If there are no contributions and
if there is no participation, no work can continue.  On the other hand,
when there are contributions or participation, we shouldn't be hasty in
closing the effort.  Therefore, I would suggest a solicitation for new
topics with the threat of closure, before actually closing – or going
dormant.

Eliot