Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Thu, 11 July 2013 18:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87
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I can see some implied outcomes for some of the items.  Would it help
to list some (aspirational) goals.

On 11 July 2013 09:51, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> Should SDES be part of  WebRTC security practice and, if so, how?
> Presentations: 30 minutes
> Discussion:  40 minutes

Are the chairs confident that this topic can be resolved in this time?
 We managed to fritter a similar amount of time away without
conclusion in the past.  I can see how you plan to accommodate
overruns, but that just opens the possibility more time-wasting.  How
do we ensure that this discussion actually concludes?

> Post-Plan A/Plan B MMUSIC discussion of impact to RTCWEB documents
> Presentation: 30 minutes

How are you planning to prepare for this?  Do you have presenter
candidates lined up?

> Chair Discussion:  10 minutes

I'm curious how you intend to spend this time.