Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES
Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Sun, 14 July 2013 14:38 UTC
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From: Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES
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On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Stefan Håkansson LK < stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com> wrote: > On 7/13/13 11:02 PM, Bernard Aboba wrote: > > Hadriel -- > > > > I think you've brought up a critical point, which is very worth keeping > > in mind throughout the discussions in IETF RTCWEB. That is that WebRTC > > is really two distinct innovations -- one, a profile of "RAI 2.0" > > functionality, defining a core set of RTP functionality developed over > > the last decade (e.g. end-to-end security, adaptive HD codecs, AVPF, > > etc.), and the other, a set of Javascript APIs for Web browsers defined > > by the W3C.IMHO, the "RAI 2.0" aspect is likely to prove more > > important (and long-lived) than the W3C WEBRTC API aspect. > > > I think that the Javascript APIs are going to be very important, but I > fully agree that the "RAI 2.0" profile defined will be used beyond > browsers. And I think that the more self contained (i.e. not dependent > on other signaling during operation) we can make that RAI 2.0 profile > the better. > > This point, even though valid, might have unintended consequences. For instance, if support for RTP based real time text in web browsers is questionable, due to other ways to implement it via existing communications channels, it should probably be part of "RAI 2.0". I think there are going to be quite a few features, which will not be part of core webrtc functionality which will fall into "RAI 2.0" category. Discussing these features can slow down this group even more then it already is, and is most likely be outside of this group charter. Furthermore, according to the same logic, Hadriel's compromise can be boiled down to not supporting SDES in WebRTC, with all the other language essentially discussing things that will not controlled by WebRTC drafts and lay outside this group charter. _____________ Roman Shpount
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- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Stefan Håkansson LK
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- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 - FW Issues Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 - FW Issues Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 - FW Issues Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 - FW Issues Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 - FW Issues Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Hadriel Kaplan
- [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Hrishikesh Kulkarni
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] Draft agenda for IETF 87 Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Matt Fredrickson
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Parthasarathi R
- Re: [rtcweb] A compromise for SDES Cullen Jennings