Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568) and RTCWeb
Xavier Marjou <xavier.marjou@orange.com> Fri, 26 April 2013 08:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568) and RTCWeb
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+1 for supporting SDES as a keying method for WebRTC Cheers, Xavier On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Hutton, Andrew < andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com> wrote: > Also agree that we should support SDES in additional to DTLS-SRTP. > > Regards > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Ejzak, Richard P (Richard) > > Sent: 25 April 2013 22:55 > > To: rtcweb@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568) and RTCWeb > > > > I also agree that we should support SDES in addition to DTLS-SRTP. > > > > This raises a further question about SCTP/DTLS for DataChannels. It > > seems that if we support SDES-SRTP, don't we also need to provide an > > SDES keying mechanism for DataChannels? Ekr: What is needed to realize > > this? > > > > Richard Ejzak > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On > > > Behalf Of Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE) > > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:28 PM > > > To: Bogineni, Kalyani; 'Cullen Jennings'; rtcweb@ietf.org > > > Subject: Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568) and RTCWeb > > > > > > I agree. The ability to set the cipher suite and keys from JavaScript > > > is critical for certain applications. SDES is the best we'll get with > > > SDP as the API. DTLS-SRTP-only would be unacceptably limiting. > > > > > > Matthew Kaufman > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On > > > > Behalf Of Bogineni, Kalyani > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:21 PM > > > > To: 'Cullen Jennings'; rtcweb@ietf.org > > > > Subject: Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568) and > > RTCWeb > > > > > > > > We would like to support the use of SDES as a keying method for > > > WebRTC. > > > > > > > > Kalyani Bogineni > > > > Verizon > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On > > > > Behalf Of Cullen Jennings > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:57 AM > > > > To: rtcweb@ietf.org > > > > Subject: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568) and RTCWeb > > > > > > > > > > > > The working groups committed some time ago to have a further > > > > discussion on whether SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568 aka SDES) > > > > would be usable as a keying method for WebRTC. As we prepare for > > > that > > > > discussion, we'd like to have expressions of interest or support > > for > > > > that approach which indicate the general outlines of support > > > proposed. > > > > If you wish to make such an expression of support, please send it > > to > > > the chairs or the list. > > > > > > > > Cullen, Magnus, & Ted <The Chairs> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > rtcweb mailing list > > > > rtcweb@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > rtcweb mailing list > > > > rtcweb@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > rtcweb mailing list > > > rtcweb@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > _______________________________________________ > > rtcweb mailing list > > rtcweb@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)
- [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568) and… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Alan Johnston
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Bogineni, Kalyani
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Igor Faynberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Mandeep Singh
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Xavier Marjou
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Oscar Ohlsson
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Alan Johnston
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… DRUTA, DAN
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Binod
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- [rtcweb] Network times … was SDP Security Descrip… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Roy, Radhika R CIV USARMY (US)
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Roy, Radhika R CIV USARMY (US)
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Bo Burman
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Daniel-Constantin Mierla
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Daniel-Constantin Mierla
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Network times . was SDP Security Des… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Henry Lum
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Henry Lum
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Henry Lum
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Security Descriptions (RFC 4568)… Dan Wing