Re: [Softwires] Proposed Unified Address Mapping for encapsulation and double-translation

Maoke <fibrib@gmail.com> Tue, 18 October 2011 02:37 UTC

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From: Maoke <fibrib@gmail.com>
To: Rémi Després <despres.remi@free.fr>
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Subject: Re: [Softwires] Proposed Unified Address Mapping for encapsulation and double-translation
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hi Remi,

2011/10/18 Rémi Després <despres.remi@free.fr>

> Hi Maoke,
>
> On 2011/10/12, you wrote:
> "... considering the double translation is a case of translation. it is
> possible that a src host with an IPv4-translatable IPv6 address generates a
> fragment header with a 32-bit identifier happening to have the first 16 bit
> as either 0x8000 or 0x0000, making a fake D bit in your current proposal."
>
> An important point is that the IP identifier needs to be unique ONLY for
> each <SRC, DST> pair.
> If 4rd addresses are deterministically recognizable (with the V octet in
> bits 64-71), there is no risk of confusion with an IP identification
> generated for another purpose than 4rd.
>

thus i understand. then you didn't try to decouple the header processing
from the mapping algorithm, right? sorry but i was confused here. :P

best,
maoke


>
> Hope it clarifies.
>
> Cheers,
> RD
>