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Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Question about SRv6 Insert function)

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Thu, 05 September 2019 19:24 UTC

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From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 21:24:02 +0200
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Subject: Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Question about SRv6 Insert function)
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>
> * draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming has a normative reference
> to draft-voyer-6man-extension-header-insertion
>

> * draft-voyer-6man-extension-header-insertion is about EH insertion
>
> * EH insertion is forbidden by RFC8200
>

> We have wasted way too much time and energy with all the methafores and
> curious interpretations of standards by folks pushing and/or supporting
> EH insertion, really.
>

Please notice that version -00 which was accepted by the WG does not have
such normative reference.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-00

It is not even listed as informative reference.

So it can be removed tomorrow if it bothers you :)

Cheers,
R.

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