Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Question about SRv6 Insert function)

Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> Thu, 05 September 2019 13:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Question about SRv6 Insert function)
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Fernando,

>> The IETF is not writing de jure standards.
>> In fact reality is quite different, and the Internet evolves the way it does somewhat independently of what documents the IETF produces.
>> In fact I know of no networking products (or deployments) that follow the intent and spirit of RFC8200. I challenge to point me to one! ;-)
> 
> How did we elevate IPv6 to Internet Standard, then?  On the shepherd
> write up for rfc2460bis, you argued essentially the opposite to what
> you're arguing now:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-rfc2460bis/shepherdwriteup/

I have not changed my position with regards to header insertion.
I'm arguing that you should argue technical merit on actual proposals.
Instead of trying to make RFC documents apply as laws and slap people over the head with those...

Cheers,
Ole