Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Question about SRv6 Insert function)

Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> Fri, 06 September 2019 22:08 UTC

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>> I don’t see a need to continue this debate on meta issues, but since you framed this as criticism of me in the chair role I found it required to reply. 
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> I expect the chair to uphold a previously reached consensus and put the requirement of justifying deviating from it with the ones that want to go against said consensus.

Proposals are judged on their merits. 
There is no protocol police. 

These proposals are not moving as far as I can see. So what are you trying to achieve by getting your collective knickers in a twist now?

Ole