Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Question about SRv6 Insert function)
Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Fri, 06 September 2019 22:11 UTC
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To: Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl>
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Subject: Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Question about SRv6 Insert function)
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Sander, But this is exactly what both chairs of 6man did with the help of AD long time back. You must have missed it ! And below is a link precisely written to address requirement of justifying deviation: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-voyer-6man-extension-header-insertion-06 And let me repeat one more and last time ... all other documents in progress use two different insertions. Most of them does SRH insertion + new IPv6 encapsulation which is allowed by all IPv6 related RFCs - so zero violation of any consensus. Just NP document also adds two functions for insertion without encapsulation, as additional tools which can be used for things like FRR if such application will be approved in 6man WG. All SRv6 existing specs can progress just fine with that last mode of insertion being removed if rough consensus in 6man would not get reached. Cheers, Robert. On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:58 PM Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl> wrote: > Hi Ole, > > > I don’t see a need to continue this debate on meta issues, but since you > framed this as criticism of me in the chair role I found it required to > reply. > > I expect the chair to uphold a previously reached consensus and put the > requirement of justifying deviating from it with the ones that want to go > against said consensus. > > Cheers, > Sander > > > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring >
- [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Quest… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… li zhenqiang
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Ole Troan
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Ole Troan
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Ole Troan
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Tim Chown
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Tom Herbert
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Enno Rey
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law Nick Hilliard
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Philip Homburg
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Alexander Vainshtein
- [spring] IPv6 EH-insertion (Re: Spirit and Letter… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Mark Smith
- Re: [spring] IPv6 EH-insertion (Re: Spirit and Le… bruno.decraene
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Tom Herbert
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Ole Troan
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Andrew Alston
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- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Tom Herbert
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Ole Troan
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Ron Bonica
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law - non-t… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law - non-t… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Ole Troan
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Ole Troan
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Tom Herbert
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law Nick Hilliard
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Tom Herbert
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Mark Smith
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- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Fernando Gont
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… Sander Steffann
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law - non-t… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law - non-t… Tom Herbert
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- Re: [spring] IPv6 EH-insertion (Re: Spirit and Le… Chengli (Cheng Li)
- Re: [spring] IPv6 EH-insertion (Re: Spirit and Le… Fernando Gont
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- Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Q… li zhenqiang
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