Re: [spring] Spirit and Letter of the Law (was: Question about SRv6 Insert function)

Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> Thu, 05 September 2019 19:30 UTC

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> On 5 Sep 2019, at 21:03, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
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> We have wasted way too much time and energy with all the methafores and
> curious interpretations of standards by folks pushing and/or supporting
> EH insertion, really.

Pot calling kettle black?

This is an issue we all know is there. And has to be resolved one way or the other. I am sure you will get ample opportunity to debate later. 

How this thread or discussing the topic on those terms adds value is beyond me. So I suggest we stop. 

Ole