Re: [Tools-discuss] Updated survey (was: Proposed survey on I-D authoring tools)

Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> Mon, 05 October 2020 19:54 UTC

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> On 6/10/2020, at 2:44 AM, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca> wrote:
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> On the questions about what people use, I think it would be good to be clear that we want to know what they use for drafts they are doing now.  For example. they may have used nroff lots a long time ago but don’t use it now. 

I’ve switched all the questions to the present tense "How often do you use …".  I could add "currently" "How often do you currently use …" ?

> 
> I think the word “invest” in the "Should the IETF invest in a new, modern toolchain for authoring drafts?” is very loaded. Many people will interpret that is create something specific for IETF. I think “move to” might be a better word than invest./

That’s a good point.  We don’t want any views on IETF finances to sway the answer to this question.

Jay

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>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 5:23 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Am 01.10.2020 um 19:09 schrieb Jay Daley:
>>> The updated survey is below.  Please note that
>>> 
>>> - this doesn’t show the links
>>> - I am still not sure how to point people to their Datatracker stats page
>>> - the flow logic may change when the survey is tested.
>>> 
>>> Further feedback is most welcome.
>>> 
>>> Jay
>>> ...
>> 
>> Sorry for late feedback :-)
>> 
>> This is good, thanks!
>> 
>> The one missing thing I currently can think of is an option to provide
>> information about other tools in use to either *generate* source, or to
>> validate it.
>> 
>> For instance:
>> 
>> - automatic *extraction* of sourcecode (such as ABNF) with the goal of
>> validation (and maybe re-inserting into an appendix)
>> - automatic *insertion* of source code
>> - automatic generation of document parts (such as reference tables)
>> - preprocessors that extend the XML vocabulary and generate "plain" xml2rfc
>> - use of SVG tools (or reasons why they are not used)
>> - tools that read a textual description and generate artwork from it
>> (like sequence diagrams)
>> - tools that check references (such as to RFCs and IDs, and to catch
>> dangling "deep" links, such as when a section number in the referenced
>> document changed)
>> 
>> Best regards, Julian
>> 
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