Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-D authoring tools
Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Thu, 01 October 2020 16:28 UTC
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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-D authoring tools
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I am not so sure what the value of asking what people do today is. The question that really matters is what people would do if they knew what all the options were. I use Microsoft Word and Markdown to edit my specs. All the code is open source but I seem to be the only person interested in this approach. I edit the main body of the text in regular word format. I use regular outlining etc. and it looks like word all the time I am editing. It does not look like a plaintext rfc. That gives me spell checking and grammar. Change control etc. also work. The biggest deficiency of Word as a source format is that it is a pig to generate from a tool. So I also use markdown similar to that used in Carsten's tool but aligned with the markup used by GitHub because thats the other tool we interact with. So my word documents link to the generated markdown documents. The tool will convert the Word/Markdown text into any of the input sources, HTML, XML or plaintext output. Or all three. The advantage of my approach is that it allows an editor who is using Word to interact with contributors who insist on Markdown. If you look at my output, I have produced 15 substantial drafts over the past two years. The Mesh is similar in size and complexity to X.509v3 PKI or SAML and I have designed and implemented it with very little outside help. The reason I can do what would be a 30 person team at most companies is that I am using a very powerful toolset that locks the documentation and the code together. Every example in my documents is generated from the reference code that is derived from the same source as the schema. I am just implementing a tool that locks the constant tables and cryptographic functions of the code and documentation. It will be take me about four hours.
- [Tools-discuss] Proposed survey on I-D authoring … Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Dan York
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Proposed survey on I-D author… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Proposed survey on I-D author… worley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- [Tools-discuss] Updated survey (was: Proposed sur… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Updated survey (was: Proposed… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Updated survey (was: Proposed… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Updated survey (was: Proposed… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Ronald Tse
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… tom petch
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Updated survey (was: Proposed… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Ronald Tse
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Proposed survey on I-… Ronald Tse
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Updated survey (was: Proposed… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Updated survey (was: Proposed… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Updated survey (was: Proposed… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Updated survey (was: Proposed… Jay Daley