Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix and zulip

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Tue, 06 October 2020 00:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix and zulip
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Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> wrote:
    > I proposed the addition of user accounts a few months ago to the IESG
    > and the Tools Team in order to address the feedback from the IETF 107
    > post-meeting survey, and the main concern expressed was that they would
    > appear to be "official" jabber accounts and therefore representative of
    > the IETF.  By contrast the zulip and matrix instances are specifically
    > named as trials and therefore do not incur that risk.

Unless they weren't @ietf.org.
I'm sure this community has a few under utilized domains that could be used.
I think I'd even offer ox.org.

    > As that proposal was being considered, the community introduced the
    > IETF Slack space and there were discussions in the SHMOO WG about this
    > whole area.  In that context it did not seem appropriate to make such a
    > change as that might be seen as acting inconsistently with the emerging
    > community process.

    > I would be interested in views on this.

Even if we think Matrix or Tulip is so awesome that we'd want to run it
tomorrow, we probably want to host accounts on some domain.   So we run into
the same concern.

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