Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix and zulip

Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> Mon, 05 October 2020 21:40 UTC

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From: Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 22:40:25 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix and zulip
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On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 22:29, Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> wrote:

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> On 6/10/2020, at 10:12 AM, Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> wrote:
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> So the problem with using an existing service is that it may be
> inadvertently considered an official stance of the IETF despite an official
> statement to the contrary, whereas explicitly ruling it out, while that is
> a stated official stance of the IETF, is not to be considered to mean
> anything? I'm so glad you have made this crystal clear to me.
>
> It is possible to place an XMPP service on a domain other than ietf.org,
> such as, oh, I don't know, perhaps "trial.ietf.org", if the idea is
> really to avoid the impression that the IETF's use of its own protocols is
> somehow an approach worth following.
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> I will let the Tools Team respond to that, other than to note that exactly
> the same point could have been reached without the sarcasm.
>
>
Perhaps so. But not, I assure you, without the exasperation.

Dave.