Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-labeling-02.txt
Olen Stokes <ostokes@extremenetworks.com> Sun, 18 November 2012 17:27 UTC
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From: Olen Stokes <ostokes@extremenetworks.com>
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Comparing the -01 and the -02 versions of this draft shows some very important changes. I understand the desire to finalize this draft. However, I am concerned that the changes in the -02 version may have created some inconsistencies in the document. There may also be opportunities to more clearly state some of the implications of the changes. Section 1.1 still defines a FGL RBridge as a ³TRILL switch that support[s] both FGL and VL². However, Section 9 states, ³no TRILL data frames can be exchanged between VL and FGL RBridges². It would be helpful to better describe scenarios where a FGL RBridge needs to support a VL mode of operation if a FGL RBridge cannot exchange packets with a VL RBridge. Section 3 states that the default port configuration for a FGL RBridge port is VL. A scenario where this is utilized would also be helpful. Otherwise, if a FGL RBridge does not have to support a VL mode of operation, a specific statement to that effect would be appropriate. Section 7, Item 2, only discusses ³Silicon Considerations² from an ingress/egress point of view. It does not discuss it from a transit RBridge perspective. However, there appears to be several statements in the draft that could have important effects on how existing silicon could be used for transit FGL RBridge operation. Section 5.1 states: ³An FGL ingress RBridge MAY serially TRILL unicast a multi-destination TRILL Data frame to the relevant egress TRILL switches after encapsulating it as a TRILL known unicast data frame (M=0)². This would appear to allow silicon that can TRILL forward unicast FGL packets to operate as a TRILL transit FGL node regardless of whether it can TRILL forward FGL multi-destination packets. If that is the intent, it would be helpful to state that in Section 7, Item 2. Section 5.2.2 states: ³Pruning is an optimization. If a transit TRILL switch does less pruning than it could, there may be greater link utilization than strictly necessary but the campus will still operate correctly.² This would appear to allow silicon that can TRILL forward FGL multi-destination packets to operate as a TRILL transit FGL node regardless of whether it can prune FGL packets. If that is the intent, it would be helpful to state that in Section 7, Item 2. Section 5.2.2 also discusses pruning based only on the High Part or the Low Part of a FGL. A statement about silicon that can prune based only on half of a FGL would also be helpful in Section 7, Item 2. Thanks for any consideration of these items. Cheers, Olen On 11/6/12 3:42 PM, "Donald Eastlake" <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote: >Hi, > >As announced at the TRILL WG meeting today, this starts a two week WG >Last Call on draft-ietf-trill-fine-labeling ending 19 November. > >Thanks, >Donald >============================= > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) > 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA > d3e3e3@gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >trill mailing list >trill@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/trill
- [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-label… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Mingui Zhang
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Jon Hudson
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… hu.fangwei
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… gayle noble
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Naveen Nimmu
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… zhai.hongjun
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Sunny Rajagopalan
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Radia Perlman
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Rajeev Manur
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Yizhou Li
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Sujay Gupta
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Olen Stokes
- [trill] 答复: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Haoweiguo
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Thomas Narten
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Thomas Narten
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Radia Perlman
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Thomas Narten
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Phanidhar Koganti
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Olen Stokes
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Rajeev Manur
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Radia Perlman
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- [trill] 答复: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Phanidhar Koganti
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Tal Mizrahi
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Olen Stokes
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Olen Stokes
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Olen Stokes
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Thomas Narten
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Radia Perlman
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Thomas Narten
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Olen Stokes
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Olen Stokes
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Olen Stokes
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Radia Perlman
- Re: [trill] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-trill-fine-l… Donald Eastlake