Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-ip-01 a WG document?

Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> Tue, 15 May 2012 10:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-ip-01 a WG document?
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Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> writes:

> None of these arguments matter as our Area Director says that we need
> to re-Charter to make TRILL over IP a WG draft. However, I will
> respond a bit below:

Then let us please have that discussion and recharter. IMO, it is
close to ludicrous for "TRILL over Foo" documents to be out-of-scope
for this WG, if that is indeed what you are saying.

One could argue that the WG needs to finish its core documents
first. Or that it needs to get deploy experience first, etc., etc. Or
that specific FOO is not needed. But having work on
draft-mrw-trill-over-ip being done outside of the WG because its
generally out-of-scope for TRILL would be broken, IMO.

Thomas