Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-ip-01 a WG document?
James Carlson <carlsonj@workingcode.com> Mon, 14 May 2012 17:03 UTC
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Cc: Erik Nordmark <nordmark@acm.org>, trill@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-ip-01 a WG document?
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Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir) wrote: > [Answer] Each WG status document is intended to be considered to be a > future RFC. They are not mere numbers or academic papers. That is the > reason why WG, Vendors and customers read them. Yes having too many of > them and some with duplication or implementing part solution takes away > the time available in hand. Again, my point is we do not need to make a > document a WG status document for simple discussion purpose (which seems > the point you are arguing) We clearly disagree in fundamental ways on how the process works. I had thought that BCP 25 made it clear that I-Ds have no standards status whatsoever, and that advancement of wg documents (if it happens, not when) requires both group consensus and IESG review. WG adoption does not in any way confer RFC status upon a draft. And, yes, I do think the bar for entry into discussion should be quite low. A draft discussing a new HTML status code probably doesn't belong here. But something discussing TRILL extensions clearly does, even if it's something that the group hadn't collectively "planned" on discussing. Given the nature of the disagreement, and the fact that I'm repeating myself, I don't think extended discussion will be fruitful. Perhaps it'd be good to hear other viewpoints. -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W <carlsonj@workingcode.com>
- [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-ip-01… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… James Carlson
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… James Carlson
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Joe Touch
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… James Carlson
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… James Carlson
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Joe Touch
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Radia Perlman
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Sam Aldrin
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Eric Gray
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Sam Aldrin
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Sam Aldrin
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Thomas Narten
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Thomas Narten
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Ralph Droms
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Ralph Droms
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [trill] Should we make draft-mrw-trill-over-i… Russ White