Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes actually doing, these days?

Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> Fri, 30 July 2021 12:47 UTC

Return-Path: <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
X-Original-To: 111attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: 111attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E1B3A2906; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 05:47:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.899
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y3nWtqSKRUWR; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 086013A290A; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 05:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D44362620; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:36:43 -0500 (EST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com
Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id KksUZnPGUwci; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:36:37 -0500 (EST)
Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D6F862718; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:36:35 -0500 (EST)
To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
Cc: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, 111attendees@ietf.org, Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
References: <30AFBC23-155E-4BE1-A33C-908FD17BC73C@sn3rd.com> <CAKKJt-d5vbdDNc3BFKLJu7t51Jf30GLQi3-YV3pfZODCOFBO9g@mail.gmail.com> <5A346DF0A2B69EB397207C72@PSB> <7898431E-8B87-44CE-A68D-DC093908495F@ietf.org> <6E6F2343-5DC7-43FE-991A-371E73FC66CA@tzi.org> <12ACD64D-4720-4C25-8080-ECC8ABD19FDE@ietf.org> <B28F923A967AB4792FD2FA6D@PSB> <4A447B35-0A01-47CE-AF65-E0C609758409@ietf.org> <20210729225601.GK57091@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <F269D0E2-058E-402C-91A2-60E5503E14B0@tzi.org> <20210730011942.GQ57091@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
From: Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
Message-ID: <9d705fa3-f382-08ca-15fb-cd1aafc86349@labs.htt-consult.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 08:47:29 -0400
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <20210730011942.GQ57091@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------9091AB67F7D2E5629AF8AF22"
Content-Language: en-US
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/111attendees/8N68KiIrnCBhIbjOBXB0pSjXwlQ>
Subject: Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes actually doing, these days?
X-BeenThere: 111attendees@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Mailing list for IETF 111 attendees <111attendees.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/111attendees>, <mailto:111attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/111attendees/>
List-Post: <mailto:111attendees@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:111attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/111attendees>, <mailto:111attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 12:47:51 -0000

Note that meetecho also has a flipchart feature for drawings.  I have 
plugged in my very old wacom tablet and used that for drawing on a 
flipchart.

On 7/29/21 9:19 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> Well, in a more productive IETF not driven just by slides, one might
> want to actually show/discuss some hackathon stuff, in which case
> a screen share is extremely helpfull. Likewis if one want to
> do some online document editing workflow with sharing editor
> and github window or the like. Aka: screen share is just not
> necessary for what we mostly tend to do, so i am very happy
> about the new meeetecho feature (thanks meetecho), but not the
> fact that its so important to us ;-)
>
> Cheers
>      Toerless
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 03:02:05AM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> On 30. Jul 2021, at 00:56, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>>> The main issue IMHO is for chairs to ensur that they do not ned to share
>>> non-PDF slides for participants because that requires them to go fullscreen,
>>> and a single chair can not log in from a second notebook (access control
>>> by meetecho).
>> Actually, modern presentation programs can present in a window, and modern browsers can “screen”-share a window.
>> You won’t get the same number of pixels, but that is cut short by the video generation anyway.
>>
>> But, apart from that observation, please nuke screen-sharing, indeed:-)
>>
>> Grüße, Carsten
>>
>> -- 
>> 111attendees mailing list
>> 111attendees@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/111attendees

-- 
Standard Robert Moskowitz
Owner
HTT Consulting
C:248-219-2059
F:248-968-2824
E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com

There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who 
gets the credit