Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID management for IETF 115 London

[Jeff Haas <[e-mail]>]

Since you're wanting to wave around the CDC pages, you forgot to add:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/covid-by-county.html

For their community level high:
When the COVID-19 Community Level is High:

    Wear a high-quality mask or respirator.
    If you are at high risk of getting very sick, consider avoiding non-essential indoor activities in public where you could be exposed.

Currently, roughly 1/3 of US counties are High.

The direct metric won't carry through to the UK, but as you say... different recommendations.

-- Jeff (who had to cancel vacation due to COVID acquired during IETF and related travel)

On 8/16/22, 3:03 PM, "114attendees on behalf of Personal Sam Smith" <[e-mail] on behalf of [e-mail]> wrote:

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    Because the next meeting is not in the USA, CDC guidance is not binding, but it may be informative to know that as of August 11, 2022. The CDC substantially changed its recommended procedures for dealing with Covid. Some of the changes are in direct response to the preponderance of research reports that have been accumulating over the last few months.

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    Some notable changes:  (Direct quotes from the CDC guidelines are bracketed with "".

    “As SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, continues to circulate globally, high levels of vaccine- and infection-induced immunity and the availability of effective treatments and prevention tools have substantially reduced the risk for medically significant COVID-19 illness (severe acute illness and post-COVID-19 conditions) and associated hospitalization and death. These circumstances now allow public health efforts to minimize the individual and societal health impacts of COVID-19 by focusing on sustainable measures to further

    reduce medically significant illness as well as to minimize strain on the health care system, while reducing barriers to social, educational, and economic activity.”


    Note the change in focus that now prioritizes reducing barriers to activity except for medically significant (aka severe) illness.


    “All persons should seek testing for active infection when they are symptomatic or if they have a known or suspected exposure to someone with COVID-19,”


    Note the change from blanket testing to now only when symptomatic or after known contact with symptomatic.


    “CDC now recommends case investigation and contact tracing only in health care settings and certain high-risk congregate settings.”


    Note the change from blanket track and trace to now only track and trace in high-risk settings (i.e elderly).

    “CDC’s COVID-19 prevention recommendations no longer differentiate based on a person’s vaccination status because
    breakthrough infections occur, though they are generally mild, and persons who have had COVID-19 but are not vaccinated have some degree of protection against severe illness from their previous infection.”


    Note that vaccination status is no longer a recommended prevention measure for transmission and infection control. It would seem that IETF's policy of requiring mandatory vaccination for admittance is no longer advisable.




    > On 16 Aug 2022, at 09:44 , Salz, Rich <rsalz=[e-mail]> wrote:
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    > > I was pointing out that if we are /not/ doing online-only, then necessarily we have accepted as true the conjecture that meeting in person adds significant value. And that being the case, the metric for what policy to have for in-person meetings should not be "how many people will be infected with this policy" but rather "how many people will come with this policy."
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    > I fully agree.
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    > (It’d be nice if people trimmed duplicate signatures :)
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