Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions
Dale Worley <dworley@pingtel.com> Thu, 31 July 2008 11:01 UTC
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On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 05:12 -0500, Mary Barnes wrote: > Dealing with our dietary restrictions isn't at all difficult if things > are properly planned in advance. All of us that deal with this know > this, but getting the info individually ahead of a meeting can be > difficult. [...] > Any decent chef (available at virtually any venue where we would hold a > meeting) is trained in dealing with all of this. The costs are really > minimal, as in most cases it involves leaving out things, using basic > ingredients and fresh foods that don't require a lot of prep. Everything I've heard about food service is that costs are dominated by labor, not food per se. And of course, the more skilled the labor, the more expensive it will be. At least, that holds in software engineering, but I see no reason why food service would be different. Now maybe it *is* of minimal added cost to the venue to make these provisions. Perhaps we should provide the venue a list of types and numbers of specialized food and ask them what the additional price would be? That could provide solid data. (OTOH, that would require prior notification of the numbers of each dietary restriction -- can we get solid enough commitments?) It sounds like proper prior information might be a way to solve this at minimal cost. But again, gathering that information is labor-intensive, must be done on-site, and requires someone who is sufficiently competent, so that isn't going to be free, either. What is a good method of accomplishing that? Now let me be clear, I'm not trying to argue for or against any particular solution. I just want people to understand this isn't an easy problem, and that we need to expend some care and effort to construct a good solution, with attention paid to all the constraints. If we spend our efforts just complaining that it *should be easy*, we won't construct a workable solution, and the problem will keep recurring. The only real evidence we have is that we haven't solved the problem yet, which is pretty good evidence that there is no known solution which works in practice. Dale _______________________________________________ 72attendees mailing list 72attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/72attendees
- [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Dale Worley
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Yoav Nir
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Mary Barnes
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Dale Worley
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Dale Worley
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Mary Barnes
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Mary Barnes
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Mary Barnes
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Dan Wing
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Mary Barnes
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Even, Roni
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Randall Gellens
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Ted Lemon
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions John C Klensin
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions john+ietf
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [72attendees] Dietary restrictions john+ietf