Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements and testing
Paul Coverdale <coverdale@sympatico.ca> Fri, 08 April 2011 18:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements and testing
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Koen Vos wrote: >quality has been shown to be good enough for the codec to be useful... I think that’s where some people have difficulty. There’s been no systematic attempt to evaluate Opus against the performance requirements given in the codec requirements document (as thin as it is) in a controlled and repeatable manner. …Paul
- [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements and … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Roman Shpount
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Roman Shpount
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Benjamin M. Schwartz
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Roni Even
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephen Botzko
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jan Skoglund
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Anisse Taleb
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Erik Norvell
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Anisse Taleb
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Anisse Taleb
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Paul Coverdale
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Benjamin M. Schwartz
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Paul Coverdale
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephen Botzko
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Anisse Taleb
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Paul Coverdale
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephen Botzko
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Anisse Taleb
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Paul Coverdale
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephen Botzko
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Benjamin M. Schwartz
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephan Wenger
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Monty Montgomery
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephan Wenger
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Monty Montgomery
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Koen Vos
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Roman Shpount
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Koen Vos
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephan Wenger
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Paul Coverdale
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Roman Shpount
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Koen Vos
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Paul Coverdale
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Roni Even
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Kavan Seggie
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Roni Even
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Roni Even
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephen Botzko
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Roni Even
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephan Wenger
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Kat Walsh
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stefan Hacker
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Paul Coverdale
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephen Botzko
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Serge Smirnoff
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Anisse Taleb
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephen Botzko
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephen Botzko
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Ron
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Stephen Botzko
- Re: [codec] A concrete proposal for requirements … Anisse Taleb
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