Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> Tue, 16 June 2020 01:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld
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Brian Dickson <brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Precisely because you want a non-TLD (we should remember this is NOT an
> actual TLD), for a number of reasons:
>
>    - You want to be able to limit the places any leaked traffic goes
>       - Currently this would be the Root Servers

And any resolvers in between there and roaming users.

>       - The typical content of enterprisey internal-only names (the DNS
>    queries themselves) are sensitive in nature
>       - I have had the opportunity to view DITL data from ISP resolvers,
>       and the nature of these kinds of queries was unsettling
>       - In addition to leaking information, these names generally should
>       not have any presence in DNS caches, which makes them excellent
> candidates
>       for easy poisoning

These issues happen in exactly the same way whether you squat on a tld or
use a private subdomain.

The draft doesn't talk about random subdomains; instead it says that part
of the point is to make names as short as possible. And our experience
with telling people to use random parts of private address space (as in
RFC 1918, and IPv6 GUA) is that they don't.

Tony.
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