Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]

bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com Wed, 28 November 2007 16:08 UTC

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From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Matt Larson <mlarson@verisign.com>
Subject: Re: L-Root address change [Re: [DNSOP] AS112 for TLDs]
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 10:58:17AM -0500, Matt Larson wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Peter Koch wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 02:35:29PM -0800, John Crain wrote:
> > 
> > > Currently about 60% New IP to 40% old IP... and rising slowly
> > > 
> > > So clearly a lot of folks still need to up date their hints files :(
> > 
> > part of that traffic will be due to old hints files, but priming was
> > actually supposed to accelerate the migration.  40% of total L traffic
> > seems a bit much for 1/13 of the priming traffic?
> 
> Why old root server IP addresses recieve so much traffic is a great
> mystery and has been for several years.  We addressed this in 2004 in
> the "Life and Times of J-root" presentation for NANOG 32:
> 
>   http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0410/pdf/kosters.pdf
> 
> Note that at the time, I fingerprinted the responsive queriers and
> many were late-model BIND, all of which are known to prime.
> 
> As I write this, J root's old IP address is receiving 1000 queries per
> second and that's over five years after we changed its address.
> Perhaps this is some sort of DNS equivlanet to cosmic background
> radiation, dating back the beginning of the Internet?
> 
> Matt
> 

	and perhaps more interesting, the old address for "B"
	showed a tapering off of traffic and then an INCREASE
	last year.   Old L and J got their numbers less than a
	decade ago.  ...  so i would not go back as far as the
	begining of the Internet.  Old B has been around for quite
	a while longer.

--bill

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