Re: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks. A first question

[Rute Sofia <[e-mail]>]

Hello,

we have named such architectures as User-centric Networks.- 
http://uloop.eu (FON was also involved in this project :)). The 
diference between such cases seems to relate with the way that the 
network grows (network dynamics):
- cooperative behavior (some form of incentive, even if it is monetization)
- based on trust (integrates non-repudiation so that users that owned 
shared devices cannot be accused of actions on behalf of others)
- self-organizing - networking nodes are often mobile, and placed in the 
customer premises.


So: if an operator manages such a networking architecture, or at least 
some aspects, it is still a community network.

Rute


On 18/06/14 15:34, Trossen, Dirk wrote:
> ...a thought: if FON was a regional authority, acting as a virtual network operator, would it be included then?
>
> Point is that the 'sharing by end users' and 'managed by some entity' can have facets that reach (in terms of said entity) from a corporate entity over a social community (e.g., a cooperative formed by these users) to a regional authority (e.g., a municipality trying to foster local Internet uptake or dedicated programmes like digital education). Where would we draw the borderline, if architecturally though they're all more or less the same?
>
> Dirk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gaia he[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Jose Saldana
> Sent: 18 June 2014 15:26
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks. A first question
>
> Hi,
>
> We have a first question. We had some doubts about this: should we include in the draft Networks in which Wi-Fi is shared by individuals, but they are in fact managed by a company (e.g. FON)?
>
>>>     There exist other networks, also based on sharing wireless resources
>>>     of the users, but not built upon the initiative of the users
>>>     themselves, nor owned by them.  The characterization of these
>>>     networks is not the objective of this document.
> As you may see, in the current version they are not included, but we have some doubts...
>
> Jose
>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: gaia [mailto:[e-mail]] En nombre de Jose Saldana
>> Enviado el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2014 16:21
>> Para: [e-mail]
>> Asunto: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After some weeks, we have been able to build an Internet Draft about
>> Community Networks. At this stage we would like to hear the feedback from people in the list.
>>
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-network
>> s/
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jose
>>
>>
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
>>> Enviado
>>> el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2014 16:18
>>> Para: Carlos Rey-Moreno; Leandro Navarro; Carlos Rey-Moreno; Andres
>>> Arcia- Moret; Marco Zennaro; Arjuna Sathiaseelan; Arjuna
>>> Sathiaseelan; Bart Braem; Leandro Navarro; Bart Braem; Jose Saldana;
>>> Ermanno Pietrosemoli; Ermanno Pietrosemoli; Jose Saldana; Marco
>>> Zennaro; Andres Arcia-Moret
>>> Asunto: New Version Notification for
>>> draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-
>>> 00.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> A new version of I-D, draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-00.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by Jose Saldana and posted to the
>>> IETF repository.
>>>
>>> Name:		draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks
>>> Revision:	00
>>> Title:		Community Networks. Definition and taxonomy
>>> Document date:	2014-06-18
>>> Group:		Individual Submission
>>> Pages:		23
>>> URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-
>>> networks-00.txt
>>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-
>>> networks/
>>> Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-
>> 00
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>     Several communities have developed initiatives to build large scale,
>>>     self-organized and decentralized community wireless networks that use
>>>     wireless technologies (including long distance) due to the reduced
>>>     cost of using the unlicensed spectrum.  This can be motivated by
>>>     different causes: Sometimes the reluctance, or the impossibility, of
>>>     network operators to provide wired and cellular infrastructures to
>>>     rural/remote areas has motivated the rise of these networks.  Some
>>>     other times, they are built as a complement and an alternative to
>>>     wired Internet access.
>>>
>>>     These community wireless networks have self sustainable business
>>>     models that provide more localised communication services as well as
>>>     providing Internet backhaul support through peering agreements with
>>>     traditional network operators who see such community led networks as
>>>     a way to extend their reach to rural/remote areas at lower cost.
>>>
>>>     This document defines these networks, summarizes their technological
>>>     characteristics and classifies them, also talking about their socio-
>>>     economic sustainability models.
>>>
>>>     There exist other networks, also based on sharing wireless resources
>>>     of the users, but not built upon the initiative of the users
>>>     themselves, nor owned by them.  The characterization of these
>>>     networks is not the objective of this document.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> The IETF Secretariat
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