Re: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks. A first question

[Roger Baig Viñas <[e-mail]>]

Hi Jose,

IMHO it's really sad to see that there isn't any Community Network
amongst the organisations of the authors. Sad because: 1) I'm pretty
sure that this lack implies missing very important details (for
instance, include or not FON model as a CN is not questionable by any
community member - obviously the answer is _NO_), 2) it's a lack of
respect towards all CNs member and the amazing work they have done,
mostly as volunteers, a lack of respect because it looks a clear attempt
of appropriation of this work.

Although I haven't had the time to go through all the draft because I
have discovered the draft just few minutes ago (from your previous post)
I have read enough to notice serious mistakes, like the mix of Community
Networks and Community Wireless Networks terms. Thus I kindly suggest
you to invite well-known community members to review the document before
submitting it.

Kind regards

On 06/18/2014 04:25 PM, Jose Saldana wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We have a first question. We had some doubts about this: should we include in the draft Networks in which Wi-Fi is shared by individuals, but they are in fact managed by a company (e.g. FON)?
> 
>>>    There exist other networks, also based on sharing wireless resources
>>>    of the users, but not built upon the initiative of the users
>>>    themselves, nor owned by them.  The characterization of these
>>>    networks is not the objective of this document.
> 
> As you may see, in the current version they are not included, but we have some doubts...
> 
> Jose
> 
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: gaia [mailto:[e-mail]] En nombre de Jose Saldana
>> Enviado el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2014 16:21
>> Para: [e-mail]
>> Asunto: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After some weeks, we have been able to build an Internet Draft about Community
>> Networks. At this stage we would like to hear the feedback from people in the list.
>>
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks/
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jose
>>
>>
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] Enviado
>>> el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2014 16:18
>>> Para: Carlos Rey-Moreno; Leandro Navarro; Carlos Rey-Moreno; Andres
>>> Arcia- Moret; Marco Zennaro; Arjuna Sathiaseelan; Arjuna Sathiaseelan;
>>> Bart Braem; Leandro Navarro; Bart Braem; Jose Saldana; Ermanno
>>> Pietrosemoli; Ermanno Pietrosemoli; Jose Saldana; Marco Zennaro;
>>> Andres Arcia-Moret
>>> Asunto: New Version Notification for
>>> draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-
>>> 00.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> A new version of I-D, draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-00.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by Jose Saldana and posted to the IETF
>>> repository.
>>>
>>> Name:		draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks
>>> Revision:	00
>>> Title:		Community Networks. Definition and taxonomy
>>> Document date:	2014-06-18
>>> Group:		Individual Submission
>>> Pages:		23
>>> URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-
>>> networks-00.txt
>>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-
>>> networks/
>>> Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-
>> 00
>>>
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>    Several communities have developed initiatives to build large scale,
>>>    self-organized and decentralized community wireless networks that use
>>>    wireless technologies (including long distance) due to the reduced
>>>    cost of using the unlicensed spectrum.  This can be motivated by
>>>    different causes: Sometimes the reluctance, or the impossibility, of
>>>    network operators to provide wired and cellular infrastructures to
>>>    rural/remote areas has motivated the rise of these networks.  Some
>>>    other times, they are built as a complement and an alternative to
>>>    wired Internet access.
>>>
>>>    These community wireless networks have self sustainable business
>>>    models that provide more localised communication services as well as
>>>    providing Internet backhaul support through peering agreements with
>>>    traditional network operators who see such community led networks as
>>>    a way to extend their reach to rural/remote areas at lower cost.
>>>
>>>    This document defines these networks, summarizes their technological
>>>    characteristics and classifies them, also talking about their socio-
>>>    economic sustainability models.
>>>
>>>    There exist other networks, also based on sharing wireless resources
>>>    of the users, but not built upon the initiative of the users
>>>    themselves, nor owned by them.  The characterization of these
>>>    networks is not the objective of this document.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>
>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>
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