Re: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks. A first question

[Rute Sofia <[e-mail]>]

If you are looking into a notion of community networks, the networks 
where resources are shared based on self-organizing, user-centric 
extensions of the usual customer premises cannot be left aside. Just as 
example, in Portugal, there is an operator, ZON, now known as NOS, that 
places APs in any household following the FON model. This means that 
there are over 700k hotspots open, where resources are shared. These are 
OpenWRT APs, and at home I can do whatever I want with my AP. These are 
hotspots that are extensible, based on the user's willingness to share 
access with thirds. Not just 1 hop away.

Again, we have named these architectures user-centric networks, and we 
have analyzed in a prior EU project both the community aspect with and 
without operator involvement. MAin use-cases involving the operator 
related with offloading and expanded coverage. Main use-case WITHOUT the 
operator involvement related with cooperative services (community services).

The definition of community in the case of the specific model mentioned, 
UCN was:
" A set of UCN nodes whose owners share common interests (e.g. sharing 
connectivity; resources; peripherals) regardless of their physical 
location. The node location exhibits a space and time correlation which 
is the basis to establish a robust connectivity model over time"

*Interest*: a parameter capable of providing a measure (cost) of the 
attractiveness of a node towards a specific location, in a specific 
instant in time.

The owner: an entity (e.g. end-user; operator; virtual operator; 
municipality) that is to be made responsible for any actions concerning 
his/her device.

The user: a legal entity or an individual using or requesting a publicly 
available electronic communications' service for private or business 
purposes, without necessarily having subscribed to such service.

Resources: A physical or virtual element of a global system. For 
instance, bandwdith; energy; data; devices.


And the Virtual Operator: entity that acts in some aspects as a UCN 
community coordinator. It may provide services such as initial 
authentication or registering, and eventually, trust relationship 
storage. A VO is not an ISP given that it does not provide Internet 
access (e.g. infrastructure; naming). A VO is neither an ASP since it 
does not provide user services.

On 18/06/14 19:04, Arjuna Sathiaseelan wrote:
> Looking through Steve and Dirk's comments again - I think its
> important for us to address all possible initiatives including profit
> and wired- but we need to identify a better way of classifying them.
>
> If anyone has suggestions - please do so.
>
> On 18 June 2014 15:25, Jose Saldana <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We have a first question. We had some doubts about this: should we include in the draft Networks in which Wi-Fi is shared by individuals, but they are in fact managed by a company (e.g. FON)?
>>
>>>>     There exist other networks, also based on sharing wireless resources
>>>>     of the users, but not built upon the initiative of the users
>>>>     themselves, nor owned by them.  The characterization of these
>>>>     networks is not the objective of this document.
>> As you may see, in the current version they are not included, but we have some doubts...
>>
>> Jose
>>
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: gaia [mailto:[e-mail]] En nombre de Jose Saldana
>>> Enviado el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2014 16:21
>>> Para: [e-mail]
>>> Asunto: [gaia] An Internet Draft about Community Networks
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> After some weeks, we have been able to build an Internet Draft about Community
>>> Networks. At this stage we would like to hear the feedback from people in the list.
>>>
>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks/
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Jose
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>> De: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] Enviado
>>>> el: miércoles, 18 de junio de 2014 16:18
>>>> Para: Carlos Rey-Moreno; Leandro Navarro; Carlos Rey-Moreno; Andres
>>>> Arcia- Moret; Marco Zennaro; Arjuna Sathiaseelan; Arjuna Sathiaseelan;
>>>> Bart Braem; Leandro Navarro; Bart Braem; Jose Saldana; Ermanno
>>>> Pietrosemoli; Ermanno Pietrosemoli; Jose Saldana; Marco Zennaro;
>>>> Andres Arcia-Moret
>>>> Asunto: New Version Notification for
>>>> draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-
>>>> 00.txt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A new version of I-D, draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-00.txt
>>>> has been successfully submitted by Jose Saldana and posted to the IETF
>>>> repository.
>>>>
>>>> Name:               draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks
>>>> Revision:   00
>>>> Title:              Community Networks. Definition and taxonomy
>>>> Document date:      2014-06-18
>>>> Group:              Individual Submission
>>>> Pages:              23
>>>> URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-
>>>> networks-00.txt
>>>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-
>>>> networks/
>>>> Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-manyfolks-gaia-community-networks-
>>> 00
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>     Several communities have developed initiatives to build large scale,
>>>>     self-organized and decentralized community wireless networks that use
>>>>     wireless technologies (including long distance) due to the reduced
>>>>     cost of using the unlicensed spectrum.  This can be motivated by
>>>>     different causes: Sometimes the reluctance, or the impossibility, of
>>>>     network operators to provide wired and cellular infrastructures to
>>>>     rural/remote areas has motivated the rise of these networks.  Some
>>>>     other times, they are built as a complement and an alternative to
>>>>     wired Internet access.
>>>>
>>>>     These community wireless networks have self sustainable business
>>>>     models that provide more localised communication services as well as
>>>>     providing Internet backhaul support through peering agreements with
>>>>     traditional network operators who see such community led networks as
>>>>     a way to extend their reach to rural/remote areas at lower cost.
>>>>
>>>>     This document defines these networks, summarizes their technological
>>>>     characteristics and classifies them, also talking about their socio-
>>>>     economic sustainability models.
>>>>
>>>>     There exist other networks, also based on sharing wireless resources
>>>>     of the users, but not built upon the initiative of the users
>>>>     themselves, nor owned by them.  The characterization of these
>>>>     networks is not the objective of this document.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>>>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>>
>>>> The IETF Secretariat
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