Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-03.txt

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Sat, 22 October 2022 18:25 UTC

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I read it, and will first just note a bunch of typographical errors: things
like an extra space after "US Department of Justice", "iETF", and even an
incorrect transcription of what's here: https://www.justice.gov/atr/mission.
I think if you're going to quote them, you need to preserve paragraph
breaks.

More critically, I don't think BCP 54 describes an "IETF framework that
participants engage in their individual capacity, not as company
representatives". I believe that to be true, and have heard it many times,
but there must be a better reference here.

thanks,
Rob



On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 11:08 AM Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:

> This is a comprehensive rewrite (largely by Brad) to reflect both the
> community feedback and advice from lawyers.
>
> Please read and comment,
>
> Thank you,
>
> Joel
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-03.txt
> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:12:18 -0700
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
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>
> Title : Antitrust Guidelines for IETF Particiants
> Authors : Joel M. Halpern
> Brad Biddle
> Jay Daley
> Filename : draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-03.txt
> Pages : 7
> Date : 2022-10-22
>
> Abstract:
> This document provides guidance for IETF participants on compliance
> with antitrust laws and how to reduce antitrust risks in connection
> with IETF activities.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/
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> There is also an HTML version available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-03.html
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> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-03
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