Re: Want to be on the IESG?

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 01 October 2021 18:18 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 13:17:29 -0500
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Subject: Re: Want to be on the IESG?
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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I've gotta stop chiming in, but ...

On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 11:11 AM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
wrote:

>
> As I've said repeatedly, if you want to know who are eligible to become
> ADs, the list
> is here:
>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/photos/


The current working group chairs do make up a good set of likely suspects,
but taking a quick look at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2021/expertise/ for any of the AD
positions and opening up the "General IESG Requirements (click to expand)"
tab, we see that "eligible" isn't quite the right word, because the *desired
*expertise says things like

*It is very helpful for an IESG member to have a good working knowledge of
the IETF document process as well as WG creation and chartering process.
This knowledge is most likely to be found in experienced WG Chairs, but may
also be found in authors of multiple documents. *


You don't have to be a current (or recent) working group chair, to be
considered for an AD position. It's just that WG chair experience can help
prepare you to serve. It would be helpful for people to take a good look at
the desired expertise, and think about who they can imagine providing a
significant chunk of that expertise, no matter what the person's background
is.

And the reason that's helpful, is that if Nomcom doesn't have good nominees
to consider, they can't kidnap unwilling nominees and forward them for
confirmation. They forward the "least worst" nominees as candidates for
confirmation - and we should note the subtle difference between
"best" nominees and "least worst" nominees.

Seriously, we do need to give Noncoms good nominees so they have something
to work with!

Best,

Spencer