Re: Want to be on the IESG?

[Lloyd W <[e-mail]>]

Ron,

That "Juniper Business Use Only" signature completely undermines the spirit of your message, don't you think?

I view the IETF as a personal interest, often best participated in from a personal address. But then, my time or any role I play here is not subsidised or sponsored, or even expected to produce useful outcomes.

Lloyd Wood
[e-mail]

which... it doesn't.

> On 8 Oct 2021, at 06:01, Ron Bonica <rbonica=[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Christian,
> 
> Keith has captured thee nuance of my comment. I really don't care where candidates come from, so long as they come to promote the common good of the Internet community and not their corporate interests.
> 
>                                                                                             Ron
> 
> 
> 
> Juniper Business Use Only
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Moore <[e-mail]> 
> Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 2:53 PM
> To: Christian Huitema <[e-mail]>; Ron Bonica <[e-mail]>; Stewart Bryant <[e-mail]>
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Want to be on the IESG?
> 
> [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> 
> 
>> On 10/7/21 1:56 PM, Christian Huitema wrote:
>> 
>> Ron, I am not sure that I agree with you or Stewart here. We are 
>> discussing the lack of candidates for leadership positions. If I look 
>> at the roster of the IAB and IESG, I find plenty of members working 
>> for those large companies that develop Internet technologies, and that 
>> tells me that we are not exactly suffering from lack of participation 
>> from big companies. In fact, if we loaded committees with even more 
>> participation of these big companies, the complaint would not be that 
>> they "do not invest" -- most probably, we would hear the opposite 
>> complaint, that they invest too much.
> 
> The question is, are those Big Companies "investing" or are they "exploiting"?  Or some of each?
> 
> Even though I think that's the question, I suspect we can't really answer that question definitively here, or maybe anywhere.
> 
> But I'd love to see more I* candidates who are NOT from Big Companies.
> IETF needs more diversity in its leadership.
> 
> Keith
>