Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-06.txt> (IETF Working Groups' Secretaries) to Best Current Practice
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 08 December 2014 21:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-06.txt> (IETF Working Groups' Secretaries) to Best Current Practice
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On 09/12/2014 09:44, Martin Vigoureux wrote: > Section 6: > Nevertheless, while the WG Chairs may delegate a number of tasks to > the Secretary, they maintain the overall responsibility and > accountability over the WG and the decisions and actions that are > taken. Which is good stuff, like most of the content. I think the argument is not about the quality of the draft, but about whether it needs to be a BCP. Brian > > Le 08/12/2014 21:37, Murray S. Kucherawy a écrit : >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com >> <mailto:melinda.shore@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> On 12/8/14 10:54 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> > More generally, it needs to be clear that chairs MAY delegate >> > their routine tasks as they see fit, including these tasks, >> > but that doing so does not absolve them from any of their >> > responsibilities. >> >> That strikes me as the correct formulation. >> >> >> Ditto. >> >> -MSK > >
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… S Moonesamy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Loa Andersson
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Robert Sparks
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Ralph Droms
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Eric Burger
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… joel jaeggli
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Randy Bush
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Bob Hinden
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Ralph Droms
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Benoit Claise
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Bob Hinden
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter