Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-06.txt> (IETF Working Groups' Secretaries) to Best Current Practice

[Robert Sparks <[e-mail]>]

On 12/3/14 5:06 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>>> The document makes reference to several tools or components of tools
>>> (the datatracker in particular) that I've never seen.  That's not to say
>>> they don't exist, but I haven't seen them and couldn't find them just
>>> now, so it makes me wonder if the tools team would have to do a bunch of
>>> work to get reality to match what's written here.  For example, I just
>>> went into the datatracker and as a working group co-chair I have
>>> privileges in that system with respect to my working groups.  However, I
>>> didn't see anywhere in there that I can declare a WG Secretary or
>>> delegate some or all of my powers to that person, despite the fact that
>>> Section 4 says such things "shall" be done.  Is this something that a
>>> co-chair would have to request of the Secretariat directly or via a
>>> sponsoring Area Director?  If not, does the tools team intend to add that?
>> Well - the tool team has to answer about their plans, but does hardly
>> effect progressing this document.
Exactly.
>>
>> Things like "delegation" are captured in the datatracker, and that is
>> what the document says: a lot of things are, some of them can only be
>> done by intervention of an AD or the Secreatariat or a combination
>> thereof. This document is not the place to describe the dynamics.
> As AD I can see the place to make these changes in the data tracker. It's possible that the permissions are not set to allow chairs to make these changes.
The ability for a chair to assign delegates has existed for a long time, 
but is currently broken (at least the navigation to it is broken).
We're tracking fixing it at 
<http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/1546>.
Expect the ability to return to normal soon.

Pulling up to the spirit of the comment. I'm the assigned Gen-art 
reviewer for this document.
I don't remember seeing anything sticking out at me as requiring new 
tooling work beyond
our normal incremental style of improvement when I reviewed -06 last summer
  (see 
<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gen-art/qUXolKK3UgJVX5xZMubFX36GgeU>).
That is, we can always make it _easier_ to do lots of these things.
And on a quick skim of -07, (I'll send a telechat review later),  I 
still don't see anything.

RjS
>
> datatracker
> sign in
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/foowg/charter/
> "Edit group"  <<< possibly this you don't have access to as a chair?
> fill in the fields
>
> Adrian
>