Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-06.txt> (IETF Working Groups' Secretaries) to Best Current Practice
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Thu, 12 June 2014 18:55 UTC
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:34:25 -0700
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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-06.txt> (IETF Working Groups' Secretaries) to Best Current Practice
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At 06:26 12-06-2014, The IESG wrote: >The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider >the following document: >- 'IETF Working Groups' Secretaries' > <draft-secretaries-good-practices-06.txt> as Best Current Practice > >The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits >final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the >ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2014-07-10. Exceptionally, comments may be I would give credit the anonymous reviewer who pointed this out. A Working Group Chair has the responsibility to make decisions on behalf of the working group. There are times where one or more participants disagree with a decision which was taken. The question of who is responsible comes into play if the WG Secretary took the decision. There is the word "responsibility" in the heading of Section 3 of the draft. I suggest avoiding that word in the draft as I don't think it is okay to blame the WG Secretary for process issues. Some people may consider that it is fair game to do that. I suggest also reviewing the usage of the word "accountable". In Section 3.1.1: "Note that WG Chairs may wish to set policies for accepting discussion's slot requests." I suggest using the word "guidelines" instead of "policies". Section 3.2 uses the term "WG document's adoption polls". I suggest avoiding the word "polls" as it sounds like voting. "Decisions are sometimes taken by WG Chairs during WG sessions." It has been said that decisions are taken on the mailing list. The above can be a problem when BCP 25 is invoked. I would like to thank the authors for putting the effort in doing this work. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… S Moonesamy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Loa Andersson
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Robert Sparks
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Ralph Droms
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Eric Burger
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… joel jaeggli
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Randy Bush
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Bob Hinden
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Ralph Droms
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Benoit Claise
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Bob Hinden
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter