RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-06.txt> (IETF Working Groups' Secretaries) to Best Current Practice
"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Wed, 03 December 2014 17:31 UTC
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From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
To: 'Ralph Droms' <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com>, 'ietf' <ietf@ietf.org>
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Subject: RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-06.txt> (IETF Working Groups' Secretaries) to Best Current Practice
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:31:06 -0000
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Hi Ralph, > Here are my opinions on how to proceed... > > First, it's important that RFC 2418 be updated to allow for a WG > secretary to take on greater responsibilities, at the discretion of > the WG chairs. It's also important that the update include formal > recognition that WG secretaries should be given access to WG support > tools. Therefore, I recommend that RFC 2418 be updated with a short > RFC that expands the potential role for WG secretaries and that > formally grants permission for secretaries to have access to WG tools. I have not seen your draft revising RFC 2418. Did I miss it or are you recommending that other people do work? I'm sure that if you start this work others will send you their review comments. > Second, because the [the document contains] a series of recommendations > that may not apply to all WGs and that may change over time, I > recommend that this very useful material be integrated into the IETF > wiki "Working Group Chairs' Page" <http://www.ietf.org/wg/chairs-page.html> The document even recommends doing that. The authors, however, thought that just like the way the Tao evolved, there is advantage in having community review and consensus of the starting text. This can then be updated through the wiki as the situation evolves. Does that community review and consensus need to be published through an RFC? Probably not, but it is a convenient way to do so. Does publication as an Informational RFC somehow ossify the recommendations? I don't think so. Cheers, Adrian
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… S Moonesamy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Loa Andersson
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Robert Sparks
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Ralph Droms
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Eric Burger
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… joel jaeggli
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Randy Bush
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Bob Hinden
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Ralph Droms
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Benoit Claise
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Bob Hinden
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter