RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-06.txt> (IETF Working Groups' Secretaries) to Best Current Practice
"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Wed, 03 December 2014 17:35 UTC
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From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
To: 'Melinda Shore' <melinda.shore@gmail.com>, 'John C Klensin' <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-06.txt> (IETF Working Groups' Secretaries) to Best Current Practice
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Melinda, Thanks for clarifying. > ... but what concerns me is that this document appears to > normalize the secretarial role, rather than simply saying > that chairs are able to delegate various tasks. There > appears to be a formal vesting of responsibility in working > group secretaries. I would love to work on the text that you feel normalising or formalising. My reading doesn't convey that to me, and speaking with the authors it is not their intention. So it should be possible to reach agreement on text changes that would take this tone out of your reading. But, it is a little hard for those of us who don't see an issue with the text to make suitable changes. Could you point us the sentences that are giving you a problem and maybe suggest replacement words? > I like Ralph's proposal to update 2418 to allow for > wg secretary access to working group tools. That's good. I believe Ralph is looking for a co-author :-) > Otherwise > my preference would be to continue to keep the focus on > chair responsibilities, including chair delegation of > various tasks. Secretaries are fine but I really > dislike seeing the role institutionalized. And again, there is no intention to institutionalise so can you help us remove that tone from the document? Thanks, Adrian
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… S Moonesamy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Loa Andersson
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Robert Sparks
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Ralph Droms
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Eric Burger
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… joel jaeggli
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Randy Bush
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Bob Hinden
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Ralph Droms
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Benoit Claise
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Bob Hinden
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-secretaries-good-practices-… Brian E Carpenter