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Re: DMARC methods in mailman --- [LEDE-DEV] DMARC related mass bounces / disabled subscriptions (fwd) Jo-Philipp Wich: [LEDE-DEV] DMARC related mass bounces / disabled subscriptions

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sat, 17 December 2016 17:08 UTC

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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 08:39:24 -0800
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>, ietf@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Re: DMARC methods in mailman --- [LEDE-DEV] DMARC related mass bounces / disabled subscriptions (fwd) Jo-Philipp Wich: [LEDE-DEV] DMARC related mass bounces / disabled subscriptions
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Hi Ted,
At 07:56 17-12-2016, Ted Lemon wrote:
>Yes.   And changing it to the mailing list also has problems in 
>terms of readability.   How about:
>
>For First Last via Listname <listaddress@example.com>
>
>This is brief, avoids the autocomplete fail, and gets the job done.

The above adds a string to prevent the auto-complete feature from 
adding an email address which is not the author's email address.  At 
this stage it is worthwhile to consider the idea.

The bounce problem [1] is a case of the IETF violating an IETF "standard".

Regards,
S. Moonesamy

1. https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg100100.html

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