Re: github is not git, was sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github

"lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> Mon, 28 January 2019 23:38 UTC

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But Linus wanted gnome! and the alternative Vigor runs in Vi...

https://www.businessinsider.com/clippy-microsofts-talking-paperclip-is-back-and-linus-torvalds-loves-it-2013-5


(using IETF discussions as examples to get yahoo to improve its text editors
and offer a text option on mobile is not going as well as I'd hoped.)

Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk http://about.me/lloydwood



On Tuesday, 29 January 2019, 09:46:27 GMT+11, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote: 





https://www.smore.com/clippy-js

Is there nothing the internet can't deliver?

Nick
(no excuses offered for html + top-posting)


>  
>   lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@dmarc.ietf.org  28 January 2019 at 22:40 
> 
>  is there an open-source alternative to Clippy?
> 
> if there is, bet it requires gnome...
> 
> 
> Lloyd Wood
> lloyd.wood@yahoo.co,uk
> 
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019, 08:43, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>   Randy Bush  28 January 2019 at 21:43 
> 
>>> The charter explicitly calls out Github, rather than the more general
>>> git.
>>> 
>> Github is not the same as git.
>> 
> which is why lloyd is questioning it being cemented in teh charter
> 
>> It does all sorts of stuff that a generic git server does not do.
>> 
> yep, a whole gui.
> 
> but, we're say we're flying the open source flag, and github is closed
> source owned by a well-known monster monopoly known for bending and
> breaking standards (i have to bleeping use exchange in $dayjb) and a
> paperclip avatar.
> 
>> People use github because they use the features generic servers don't
>> have.
>> 
> there are open source alternatives, e.g. gogs.
> 
> randy
> 
> 
> 
>   John Levine  28 January 2019 at 19:17 
> 
> 
> Github is not the same as git. It does all sorts of stuff that a
> generic git server does not do. People use github because they use
> the features generic servers don't have. 
> 
> I don't see how it is useful to conflate the two.
> 
> R's,
> John
> 
> PS: I run a generic git server on my own system so I speak from
> experience here.
> 
> 
> 
>   lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@dmarc.ietf.org  28 January 2019 at 11:49 
> 
>  The charter explicitly calls out Github, rather than the more general git.
> 
> This is, I think, depending on how you look at it, either an attempt to focus the group or a category error, rather akin to the charters for the DTN groups deciding from the outset that bundling was all that DTN was, and now github is all that git is.
> 
> Further category error examples welcomed...
> 
> "How can the IETF take advantage of Windows 10? We'll need a wg charter. No, Clippy is not in scope!"
> 
> 
> Lloyd Wood
> lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk
> 
> really looking forward to Clippy for GitHub and the Office Git assistant, changing how reviewing is done.
> 
> On Sunday, January 27, 2019, 1:15 pm, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
>  
>