Re: github is not git, was sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Mon, 28 January 2019 19:18 UTC

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From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: github is not git, was sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github
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In article <1589093219.3690074.1548676152864@mail.yahoo.com> you write:
>The charter explicitly calls out Github, rather than the more general git.

Github is not the same as git.  It does all sorts of stuff that a
generic git server does not do.  People use github because they use
the features generic servers don't have. 

I don't see how it is useful to conflate the two.

R's,
John

PS: I run a generic git server on my own system so I speak from
experience here.