Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github
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From: lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk
To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, "Matthew A. Miller" <linuxwolf+ietf@outer-planes.net>
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Subject: Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github
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+1 to Bob's unanswered question. and why is this new list ietf-and-github and not ietf-and-git? github is but one provider, backed by a proven monopolist... and that was the choice? that's a question suitable for this general list. So, on this thread topic, what viable alternatives are there? it also strikes me that setting up a mailing list to discuss use of github is not really entering into the spirit of the thing, or showing github's strengths and weaknesses. it's very much the nice face of the idea. Create a textfile with the mailing list charter, commit it to github, and then have discussions in the commit comments as everyone commits added trailing spaces to that file. if you're going to embrace github in discussions, do it properly... Lloyd Woodlloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk learn git? if I wanted to learn terse unmemorable commands that do arcane things, I'd learn unix. On Friday, January 25, 2019, 3:44 am, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote: Matthew, Please explain why this discussion shouldn’t be happening on the IETF list? Seems relevant to me. Bob > On Jan 24, 2019, at 7:53 AM, Matthew A. Miller <linuxwolf+ietf@outer-planes.net> wrote: > > All, > > Please direct all further discussion on using GitHub to < > ietf-and-github@ietf.org >. > > > Thank you, > > - > Matthew A. Miller > IETF Sergeant-at-arms > > On 19/01/24 08:23, Fernando Gont wrote: >> On 22/1/19 20:31, Hector Santos wrote: >>> My opinion. >>> >>> My only concern is the perception that the IETF is now "requiring" to >>> learn a new suite of 3rd party tools for a single purpose - RFC Draft >>> submissions publishing. For people doing this all the time, and >>> probably also using the same tools for other parts of their career, I >>> can understand it would be productive, but not for the occasional author. >>> >>> After several decades, I believe an application level IETF online RFC >>> publishing tool should be available. In the past, I used XML2RFC (a >>> java app) to outline, produce and publish my drafts. Isn't this >>> available any more? I would think a HTML5 version would be doable >>> today, and of course, some vcs would be integrated at the backend. >>> >>> I personally don't want wish to be learning git details and all the >>> other scripting tools and text formats for a single purpose. I would if >>> I have to at some top level rudimentary level just to get the job, but >>> it is not desirable, and certainly not a career requirement for me. >> >> Don't worry: https://xkcd.com/1597/ (yes, there's a lot of truth to it >> :-) ) >> >> Thanks, >> >
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- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Richard Barnes
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Eric Rescorla
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Lloyd Wood
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Carsten Bormann
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Joel M. Halpern
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Brian Trammell (IETF)
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Eric Rescorla
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- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Richard Barnes
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github tom petch
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Nico Williams
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Nico Williams
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github John Levine
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Hector Santos
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Richard Barnes
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Eric Rescorla
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Michael Richardson
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Nico Williams
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Hector Santos
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Christian Huitema
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Richard Barnes
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github tom petch
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Michael Richardson
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Yoav Nir
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Lars Eggert
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Fernando Gont
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Matthew A. Miller
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Nico Williams
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Bob Hinden
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Matthew A. Miller
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Lars Eggert
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Nico Williams
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github lloyd.wood
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Randy Bush
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Eric Rescorla
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Alissa Cooper
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Alissa Cooper
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github lloyd.wood
- Re: github is not git, was sr.ht --- "sir hat" --… John Levine
- Re: github is not git, was sr.ht --- "sir hat" --… Randy Bush
- Re: github is not git, was sr.ht --- "sir hat" --… lloyd.wood
- Re: github is not git, was sr.ht --- "sir hat" --… John R Levine
- Re: github is not git, was sr.ht --- "sir hat" --… Nick Hilliard
- Re: github is not git, was sr.ht --- "sir hat" --… lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Eric Rescorla
- Re: github is not git, was sr.ht --- "sir hat" --… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Hector Santos
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Eric Rescorla
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Hector Santos
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github lloyd.wood
- Re: sr.ht --- "sir hat" --- alternatives to Github Eric Rescorla