Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?

Ted Faber <faber@ISI.EDU> Mon, 07 July 2008 21:14 UTC

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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:13:47 -0700
From: Ted Faber <faber@ISI.EDU>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?
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On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:01:30PM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:38:28PM -0700, Ted Faber wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:32:10PM -0700, moore@network-heretics.com wrote:
> > > If you can cite verifiable evidence that even a single case that works
> > > reliably now, will cease to work, I'll concede that there is at least
>     ^^^^^^^^
> > > a hint of merit to your argument.   e.g. an actual email address or
> > > URL that uses a single-label domain name.
> > 
> > zod:~$ ping hk
> > PING hk (203.119.2.28): 56 data bytes
> > 64 bytes from 203.119.2.28: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=183.582 ms
> 
> % ping hk.
> PING hk (203.119.2.28) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from www.hkdnr.hk (203.119.2.28): icmp_seq=1 ttl=238 time=265 ms
> 64 bytes from www.hkdnr.hk (203.119.2.28): icmp_seq=2 ttl=238 time=265 ms
> 
> Not very reliably, I think.  :-)

Umm, hk. resolves to the same address from both our machines and is
pingable (modulo a single packet loss from yours, depending on how your
ping counts) from both.  http://hk pulls up a web page on a machine with
the same address.  (www.hkdnr.hk is an alias for hk. - the same machine;
you're not being redirected.)

That's at least as reliable as my (multi-dotted) home domain. :-)

I'm not sure what's not to like here.  But then again, I may be blind.

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