Re: Enough is Enough.

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Tue, 20 October 2020 19:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: Enough is Enough.
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Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote on 20/10/2020 20:13:
> Hi Khaled,
> 
> There is an IESG statement on internet draft removal: 
> https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/internet-draft-removal/

isn't this entire conversation a re-run of 2017?

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/oUwC8jVo8pI0HQ7lx734RXTAVec/

Nick