Re: Enough is Enough.

Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> Wed, 11 November 2020 17:43 UTC

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:29:44 -0500
From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com>
To: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
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> On 10/20/2020 2:07 PM Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't see how that applies. The top of his draft says "This Internet-Draft is submitted in full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79." 
> 
> And I don't see any stream listed for his drafts so I think just the RFC editor copyright rules apply. I think these drafts should be deleted. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 10/20/2020 1:48 PM Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Khaled,
> > 
> > You should give the file names if you submit a request related to
> > drafts particularly as it seems that these drafts, except
> > draft-omar-ipv10-12, do not follow the convention of including your
> > name as the second token.
> > 
> > Assuming the other drafts have the same copyright and license notice
> > as draft-omar-ipv10-12, you have granted copyright in these drafts
> > jointly to the IETF Trust and yourself. The IETF Trust licenses IETF
> > participants as in
> > https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/IETF-TLP-5.pdf particularly
> > Section 3.
> > 
> > In my opinion, these drafts should not and will not be deleted. They
> > will time out six months after posting and be removed from the active
> > directory.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Donald
> > ===============================
> > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
> > 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
> > d3e3e3@gmail.com 
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:15 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jay,
> > >
> > >
> > > Could you please do the following request?
> > >
> > >
> > > Deleting these IDs completely from the IETF repository:
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) Internet Protocol version 10 (IPv10).
> > > 2) IPmix.
> > > 3) KHALED Routing Protocol (KRP).
> > > 4) Regional Routing Protocol (RRP).
> > > 5) Numbering Exchange Protocol (NEP).
> > > 6) Satellite Internet (SI).
> > > 7) ASN Label Switching Protocol (ALSP).
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> > > Khaled Omar
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:10 PM
> > > To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>; ietf@ietf.org 
> > > Cc: ietf-draft-submission@ietf.org 
> > > Subject: Re: Enough is Enough.
> > >
> > >
> > > I would ask an IESG member. And I think Jay Daley offered up legal@ietf.org on a different thread.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/20/2020 1:00 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear IETFers,
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope this is my last e-mail with the IETF and I’m not feeling coward to repeat my first request regarding deleting my drafts from the IETF repository.
> > >
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me whom is the responsible person for deleting drafts from the IETF?
> > >
> > >
> > > P.S. I don’t want to find any BCP or whatever that mention that the original author of the draft has not the right to ask for deleting his drafts as this doesn’t make any sense.
> > >
> > >
> > > I wish you good luck after the deletion and the ideas not being used by the IETF as they have no benefits as many claims.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry for any disturbance.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > Khaled Omar
> > >
> > >
> > >