Re: first steps (was The other parts of the report...)
Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Mon, 13 September 2004 10:09 UTC
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:04:21 +0200
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: first steps (was The other parts of the report...)
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--On 12. september 2004 12:19 -0400 John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote: > To further complicate things, I personally don't think the IETF > has yet figured out enough about what it really wants from the > secretariat part of the function and reached enough consensus on > that to justify any RFP-writing. I would question that. It is true that we have not collected enough information in one place to get a proper description, but if you add together: - the Tao of IETF - the current public descriptions of IESG and IETF procedures - the (expired) draft-iesg-procedures document - the list of things that we expect the secretariat to archive, publish and update (WG charters, IPR statements, liaison statements, I-Ds, meeting materials) I actually think we are reasonably close to a description. I had one series of conversations where I tried to explain what the secretariat does, and ended up with a puzzled "but where's the big expensive problem?" - our activities may be far less extraordinary than we may think. One reason why we've done less on this activity than on the organizational structure is, I believe, because there's no real big gotcha here - we know approximately what the secretariat does; on the other hand, we have uncovered some real disagreement on how control of the support functions SHOULD be organized - and unless we resolve that, talking about the content of the secretariat contract is meaningless - we can't make a contract without having a basis from which to make it. And that's what the "scenarios" threads are all about. Harald _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- first steps (was The other parts of the report...) scott bradner
- Re: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… scott bradner
- Re: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… John C Klensin
- RE: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Steve Crocker
- RE: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Carl Malamud
- What we need done (Re: first steps (was The other… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… John C Klensin
- Re: What we need done (Re: first steps (was The o… avri
- Re: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Dave Crocker
- Re: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Dave Crocker
- RE: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… graham.travers
- RE: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… graham.travers
- RE: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Steve Crocker
- RE: first steps (was The other parts of the repor… Joel Jaeggli
- IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) Spencer Dawkins
- Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) shogunx
- Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) Michael Richardson
- Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) Michael Richardson
- Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) Tim Chown
- Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) william(at)elan.net
- Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) Hadmut Danisch
- Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) Dick St.Peters
- Re: IETF 62 Lars Eggert
- Re: IETF 62 Sam Hartman
- Re: IETF 62 Lars Eggert
- Re: IETF 62 John C Klensin
- Re: IETF 62 Lars Eggert
- Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps) Mark Allman
- RE: Meeting locations (was IETF 62) Robin Uyeshiro
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