Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Mailing Lists and DMARC

Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com> Wed, 02 November 2016 20:23 UTC

Return-Path: <dcrocker@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E361296BF; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 13:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.7
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fWVKjsD57_Gl; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 13:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pf0-x236.google.com (mail-pf0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DFE41295B7; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 13:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-pf0-x236.google.com with SMTP id d2so17540152pfd.0; Wed, 02 Nov 2016 13:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:subject:to:references:reply-to:organization:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FtbYJJA/7/3KsZnlk8JX7fWF5R2l7rYA9+lJg63XjzY=; b=j7Uba3HtrsLNpP60kLtjZ//yWymGI9P8oZuaSXteEnj6C8RsTZfSCwXj/1YiBKWS1/ 4YRd31nqaQZVnsirnnjks0bxD6ZIo7EA0Myy5U2emBvz2tvT+sRuWzqI0d1IvXK9YFll rEsMyZwFpwkFRO6GOnZW53rvrWcMXOzlScuEQvb+MyZrF4cpUCXBAXXflLqPw/0nO0Ty meqeAAzP6j7/Mat2KcYBU1pGaqY2Lj447Z74VJsiAPjKSbM7ZE27/HIL1Gf8FtDrw50/ sCe8+75JybehOWO7L7ZXcG65idJgGdo5ect3q/rUUZ1rsw1EzXXWUBY9sE3p/++5frvg +QoQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:subject:to:references:reply-to:organization :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FtbYJJA/7/3KsZnlk8JX7fWF5R2l7rYA9+lJg63XjzY=; b=ZT5eGM/IZrp279TZZE2FLo3maH+gDNa5WJe+h9fmDvVyRMgG3IdSErvK+5A1G+URuJ TIiY8zoHg4OPFdDhxROtc+VlG8TDb7VUy3lr4bmfEU71SJjb6XTt/o4bm2/jSpwLAoBh Jzh1NZD/rTbBUBge4+LNAfdOmeXPbL5y3a8kPXTCo5uyg/TLQPtnTcBAZKtJV19N/uIU cQpTvK+Pee8QSJgHKQ9ccvH7Tm6eXjOaiCSTShKqt2ejU6XbSN8uvbG0oowpDk6WAYYO 2wqhzSxek/LcfKv3EWljwGI6250B45xtfnkk7DL8SRdmwqpkY5DeI2SLD5idIucQjHx+ xrMw==
X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvc5NJ4IzdTEKkNhFeWhtAY/rH9sU0Ru/WjMnOKzJgq3ZXw6QM7qi41kmozfg+egmQ==
X-Received: by 10.98.84.135 with SMTP id i129mr10010120pfb.93.1478118195835; Wed, 02 Nov 2016 13:23:15 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [10.71.12.45] ([8.25.222.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e6sm6847673pad.0.2016.11.02.13.23.13 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Nov 2016 13:23:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com>
X-Google-Original-From: Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>
Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Mailing Lists and DMARC
To: Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net>, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca>, ietf@ietf.org, dmarc@ietf.org
References: <678C2FBA-A661-4556-A300-5C08562B5F8A@iii.ca> <581A46FA.6040001@isdg.net>
Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking
Message-ID: <52be7430-062f-3f20-57e9-7c44bd018ff3@dcrocker.net>
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 13:23:11 -0700
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <581A46FA.6040001@isdg.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/aU2cjn-xbOyB4XZIL-P4K29dzIU>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:23:17 -0000

On 11/2/2016 1:05 PM, Hector Santos wrote:
> Since its inception, this has been the "Achilles' heel" of DKIM without
> a Signature


The issue, here, is with features added by DMARC.  As such, the problem 
has nothing to do with DKIM.

DKIM does not present any problems, with respect to retaining the 
rfc5322.From field contents.

d/

-- 

   Dave Crocker
   Brandenburg InternetWorking
   bbiw.net