Re: Status of this memo

Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> Tue, 27 April 2021 23:43 UTC

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From: Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net>
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On 4/27/2021 7:12 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
> Once the WG adopts the document, the WG owns it, and the document pen 
> holder (original author or otherwise) is expected to work according to 
> the direciton of the WG.

Hi Joel -

I'm lacking a reference for that specific claim in the various documents 
that describe the process of getting a document published as an RFC.    
Could you provide one please?  E.g. where does it say that the WG owns 
it?   For that matter, where does it say that a WG needs to formally 
adopt a document to work on it?

I would say instead that the WG may - when faced with a recalcitrant 
author/editor  a) replace them, b) decline to advance the document.  In 
my experience (a) has been difficult to achieve simply because you may 
not be able to find anyone else who cares enough to do the grunt work of 
taking the slings and arrows of the WG and turning it into a publishable 
document.  So the person who holds the pen, also tends to have a bit 
more say over the content of the document - that's just the reality of 
things.

Later, Mike