Re: Status of this memo
Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com> Tue, 27 April 2021 13:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: Status of this memo
From: Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com>
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 09:32:10 -0400
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IDs are adopted by WGs when they are material to the work of the WG and the alternative is to throw out the work and start over? Scott > On Apr 27, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote: > > On 4/27/21 9:19 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 2021-4-27, at 16:13, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote: >>> I've seen too many groups decide to "adopt" a draft, with little discussion, based only on the appearance of support for the draft by the chairs, when it was clear that most participants (even those in favor of adoption) hadn't even read it. >> would you please provide some examples? > > I don't want to single out specific WGs, especially when these decisions were taken some time ago and it's too late to change them. Also it's not as if I've kept a record of every time I have seen this happen. I've just seen it happen so often that I realized it was poor practice on our part, and I don't think it should be further entrenched. > > Keith > >
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