Re: pgp signing in van

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Sun, 08 September 2013 21:26 UTC

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Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> wrote:
    > Could we do smime as well?

    > If we had a list of smime cert fingerprints it can be used for trust
    > reinforcement

Sure, but how does one establish any kind of web of trust in smime?
I have to gather everyone's certificate, and I get no transitivity.

    > The issue is that smime email clients are more common so I would
    > rather teach the smime doggie pgp like tricks than vice versa

I agree that they are more common, and I bemoan the fact that they aren't
used.

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