Re: [imap5] Feature set? - was Re: Designing a new replacement protocol for IMAP

Adrien de Croy <adrien@qbik.com> Mon, 20 February 2012 12:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [imap5] Feature set? - was Re: Designing a new replacement protocol for IMAP
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We didn't implement BURL (HURL).

It was just too far over the insanity horizon to write an IMAP client 
for that purpose.

Especially since I don't know of a single client that uses it.

So the MUA takes care of BCC in sent items, when it uploads the file 
there after sending with SMTP.

On 21/02/2012 12:41 a.m., Bron Gondwana wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012, at 01:34 PM, Adrien de Croy wrote:
>> i'm just talking about good old file system file copy, without parsing.
> Just our of interest, are you doing this with BURL now?
>
> If not, then a requirement to translate during copying is not an additional
> imposition on top of the IO and CPU hit you're currently getting from
> two different copies being sent through your system(s).
>
> If so, how do you handle the case where the client wants to store a
> BCC field in their "Sent Items" folder as a record of who it was
> really sent to?
>
> Bron.

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