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Re: [imap5] Feature set? - was Re: Designing a new replacement protocol for IMAP

Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm> Thu, 16 February 2012 11:56 UTC

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From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>
To: Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net>, Adrien de Croy <adrien@qbik.com>, Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no>, "Discussion on drastically slimming-down IMAP." <imap5@ietf.org>
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:56:35 +0100
Subject: Re: [imap5] Feature set? - was Re: Designing a new replacement protocol for IMAP
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On Thu, Feb 16, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> What we need to do is identify the core problems to be solved,  
> instead of finding solutions and trying to figure out how to use them.
> 
> But it's not nearly as much fun.

I'm working on that!  Have updated a reasonable amount of the wiki page with a
list of RFCs now... more later.

I absolutely agree that finding solutions first is a lousy approach, and
I'm as guilty as anyone here.  Let's get back to working on the core problem(s).

Bron.
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