Re: [imapext] AD review draft-ietf-imapapnd-appendlimit-extension-06
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Thu, 17 December 2015 17:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [imapext] AD review draft-ietf-imapapnd-appendlimit-extension-06
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On 17/12/2015 17:37, Stu Brandt wrote: > Since RFC 3501 section 4.5 states... > > The special form "NIL" represents the non-existence of a particular > data item that is represented as a string or parenthesized list, as > distinct from the empty string "" or the empty parenthesized list (). > > > ...does the introduction of nil as an alternative to number now imply > that an update to this text is necessary? We can consider it, but I don't think this is actually a big deal. Because the text above doesn't say that "nil" can't be used anywhere else ;-). > > - Stuart > > On 12/17/15 12:20 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 17/12/2015 17:01, Narendra Bisht wrote: >>> The data type for APPENDLIMIT is NUMBER. >>> Will it accommodate a NIL? >> >> RFC 3501 defines: >> status-att-list = status-att SP number *(SP status-att SP number) >> >> >> RFC 4466 redefines status-att-list: >> status-att-list = status-att-val *(SP status-att-val) >> ;; Redefines status-att-list from RFC 3501. >> >> status-att-val = ("MESSAGES" SP number) / >> ("RECENT" SP number) / >> ("UIDNEXT" SP nz-number) / >> ("UIDVALIDITY" SP nz-number) / >> ("UNSEEN" SP number) >> ;; Extensions to the STATUS responses >> ;; should extend this production. >> ;; Extensions should use the generic >> ;; syntax defined by tagged-ext. >> >> So, I think you should add RFC 4466 to Normative references, then add >> the following to Section 5 of your draft: >> >> appendlimit-status-att-val = "APPENDLIMIT" SP (number / nil) >> status-att-val /= appendlimit-status-att-val >> ;; status-att-val is defined in RFC 4466 >> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: imapext [mailto:imapext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexey >>> Melnikov >>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 5:16 AM >>> To: imapext@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [imapext] AD review of >>> draft-ietf-imapapnd-appendlimit-extension-06 >>> >>> >>>> On 17 Dec 2015, at 03:39, Adrien de Croy <adrien@qbik.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Barry Leiba" <barryleiba@computer.org> >>>> To: "Bron Gondwana" <brong@fastmail.fm> >>>> Cc: "imapext@ietf.org" <imapext@ietf.org> >>>> Sent: 17/12/2015 9:14:31 a.m. >>>> Subject: Re: [imapext] AD review of >>>> draft-ietf-imapapnd-appendlimit-extension-06 >>>> >>>>>>> Why do we think there's anything wrong with using, say, the word >>>>>>> "NONE" (either case-insensitive or case-sensitive; I don't care)? >>>>>>> What's wrong with this?: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> C: t1 STATUS INBOX (APPENDLIMIT) >>>>>>> S: * STATUS INBOX (APPENDLIMIT NONE) >>>>>>> S: t1 OK STATUS completed >>>>>> If you're going to do that, why not make it (APPENDLIMIT NIL), which >>>>>> already has exactly the meaning that we want? >>>>> Yes, I'd forgotten about the existing token "NIL". I like that >>>>> approach. >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> Definitely not a fan of overloading the meaning of magic numbers >>> I don't think this is a particular important point (there are always >>> limits of some kind), but I like NIL. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> imapext mailing list >> imapext@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imapext > > _______________________________________________ > imapext mailing list > imapext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imapext
- [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-append… Barry Leiba
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Barry Leiba
- [imapext] Referencing RFC 2088 (was: AD review of… S Moonesamy
- Re: [imapext] Referencing RFC 2088 Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] Referencing RFC 2088 (was: AD revie… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Narendra Bisht
- Re: [imapext] Referencing RFC 2088 S Moonesamy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] Referencing RFC 2088 (was: AD revie… Naren
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… S Moonesamy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Naren
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… S Moonesamy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Naren
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… S Moonesamy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Barry Leiba
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… S Moonesamy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… S Moonesamy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Stu Brandt
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Stu Brandt
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Dave Cridland
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Dave Cridland
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Barry Leiba
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Bron Gondwana
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Barry Leiba
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Narendra Bisht
- Re: [imapext] AD review draft-ietf-imapapnd-appen… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Barry Leiba
- Re: [imapext] AD review draft-ietf-imapapnd-appen… Stu Brandt
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review draft-ietf-imapapnd-appen… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review draft-ietf-imapapnd-appen… S Moonesamy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Barry Leiba
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Barry Leiba
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review draft-ietf-imapapnd-appen… Dave Cridland
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review draft-ietf-imapapnd-appen… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Jayantheesh S B
- Re: [imapext] AD review of draft-ietf-imapapnd-ap… Barry Leiba